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Nechtěl jsem to číst, ale nakonec jsem neodolal a musím říct, že jsem z toho mírně rozpačitý. Čekal jsem od příběhu nového dílu něco víc, než recyklování věcí, které už jsme v SW několikrát viděli. Ale JJ je dobrý režisér, takže věřím, že se budu bavit. A vztah Kylo Rena ke zbytku starých postav je sice asi nejspoleroidnější věc v textu, ale přitom tak naivně klasická SW informace, až to bolí. Díky za to.
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pratele, tohle nejsou jedine reakce. Jsou i jine, tady mate dve recenze, pozor, obsahuji SPOILERY, TAKZE KDO NECHCE O FILMU NIC VEDET, AT TOHLE NECTE:
Here are random spoilers for STAR WARS Episode VII which I saw today. Just because I want to ruin your fun:
The first line of the opening crawl is "Luke Skywalker has disappeared."
The first sentence in the movie is "This will begin to make things right", said by Max von Sydow. Poe Dameron came to him to get the map to Luke Skywalker for The Resistance.
Max von Sydow's role is just a cameo, he has about 10 sentences before Kylo Ren kills him.
The Empire is now The First Order, The Rebels are now The Resistance, more extreme fraction of the New Republic, who are supposedly pussies. We only see the New Republic planet for a few seconds before it's destroyed by the Starkiller base.
Almost no one in the movie believes that Jedis and Luke Skywalker ever existed.
Kylo Ren captures Poe and uses the Force to stop laser blast so that it remains floating in the air, frozen in place.
Finn helps captured Poe to escape from the Star Destroyer only because he cannot pilot TIE fighter himself. Poe is an expert pilot, Finn can shoot lasers. They become friends.
Finn's "real name" is FN and four numbers. Poe starts to call him "Finn" because it's easier to pronounce. FN likes it.
After 20 minutes, we are supposed to think that Poe Dameron was killed in the TIE crash on Jakku. He reappers near the end (he ejected before the crash) to lead the attack on Starkiller base. He is not in the film very much. Finn wears Poe's jacket during most of the movie.
Rey meets Finn, they steal the Millennium Falcon from the junkyard and fly away. Han and Chewie catch them soon, followed by two groups of racially-stereotyped space gangsters.
Chewbacca is wounded by space gangsters soon after he appears and spends most of the remaining time doing nothing. Rey takes his place as Falcon's pilot, proving herself to Han.
Kylo Ren is Han and Leia's son. He is "Master of The Knights of Ren" but it's not explained what it means.
Kylo Ren's real name is Ben. He was trained by Luke but then turned to the Dark Side which was the reason for Luke blaming himself and disappearing.
The Starkiller base charges by draining suns and then destroys whole solar systems. The shot in trailer with Kylo Ren and red flare is the Starkiller base firing. Guess what, the Starkiller base can be destroyed by flying in her trench and shooting the "oscillator" or whatever.
Han meets Kylo at the Starkiller base/planet and tries to persuade him to return with him. "I am torn apart, father. But I know what I must do. Can you help me?" - "Of course, my son." They almost embrace. Kylo pierces Han with lightsaber. "Thank you, father." Dead Han falls into the shaft on the Starkiller base. Yes, he is dead. Most definitely.
Leader Snoke is the bald CGI bad guy with large scar across his face. He has snake-like movements but his body is never clearly seen. His motivation or origin is never explained. He gives orders to Kylo Ren and General Hux (who hate each other). Most of the characters don't know about Snoke's existence.
General Hux has screaming monologue in front of thousands of Stormtroopers: "We stand upon this mighty weapon you've built. Everyone will bow to The First Order. Today will be remembered as the last day of The Republic!" Afterwards, all Stormtroopers raise their fists. Very nice Der Fuhrer moment.
Fan service: Holochess. The levitating training ball from Episode 4. Admiral Ackbar. Rey living in the AT-AT wreckage. "1138" mentioned. Garbage chute and trash compactor mentioned. Kesel Run mentioned.
Simon Pegg plays an alien called Ankar Plutt who took care of Rey when she was very little and her parents disappeared. Now he runs a junkyard on Jakku and buys scrap from Rey. His face and voice is not recognizable.
Apart from Han and Chewie, all the "original characters" (Leia, R2D2, C3PO) only appear after two thirds of the movie, when The Resistance lands on Maz Kanata's planet.
Maz Kanata (small CGI gypsy) is the new Yoda and explains everything cryptically. Nobody understands her.
Han and Leia see each other for the first time after many, many years and have a touching conversation about their son: "You can still save him." / "How can I save him when Luke couldn't?" / "Luke was a Jedi, your are his father."
Kylo Ren and Rey have duel of wills. Rey wins, telling Kylo: "I sense your fear. You are afraid that you will never be as strong as Darth Vader."
Kylo Ren talks to Vader's helmet: "Show me the darkness. I will finish what you started, grandfather."
R2D2 spends the whole movie powered down and doesn't do anything until 5 minutes at the very end when it's discovered that crucial part of the Skywalker map is in his memory, probably but there by Luke long time ago. (It's not very clear but Luke appears with R2D2 in a flashback.)
Rey has a weird dream/flashback after she finds Luke's lightsaber in Maz Kanata's castle and touches it. The dream contains lots of quick imagery and short voiceovers by Yoda and Obi-Wan. Several famous shots in trailers (Kylo and his posse, Luke's mechanical arm on R2D2) are from this dream montage and are never explained in the movie.
Finn's origin (his skin color, who are his parents, why he hates the First Order) is never explained.
C3PO's red hand is never explained. In fact, there are many things that are never explained in this movie...
Both Finn and Rey have lightsaber duel with Kylo in the forest on the Starkiller planet/base. Finn is badly wounded and spends rest of the movie in a coma. Rey finally falls in love with him. (He loved her from the first sight.)
Starkiller base/planet is succesfully destroyed by The Resistance. We don't know what happens with Kylo Ren (who was there) but he probably survived. Snoke sends the message to Hux to "Bring Kylo Ren to me complete his training."
The last sentence of the movie is "May the Force be with you", said by Leia to Rey.
After the last sentence, there is an extended sequence without dialogue: Rey leaves the Resistance base in the Millennium Falcon with Chewbacca. They find remote planet where Luke is hiding (because they now have the map), Rey goes to the "first Jedi Temple" (which looks like ruins of some Scottish castle on a rocky island). Luke is there, dressed in old Obi-Wan style hood. Rey returns his sword to him. Apart from this sequence, Luke only appears for three seconds in Rey's previous flashback. Luke speaks no words in the whole movie and is onscreen maybe for 30 seconds total. He never meets anyone else than Rey.
druha recenze:
Once the excitement dies down, you start to peel back the layers and realize there aren't any. It's time to kill the death star again again. The movie spends so much time referencing the past, walking you through the Musem of Star Wars that you wind up lost in the musem... with little reason to root for the new leads.
Rey spends the first 3/4ths of the movie meandering. Finn runs away from the stormtroopers because he is afraid, but he'll literally run towards a firing squadron for Rey... but there's no why. Maybe because she helped him, maybe because he thinks shes hot. You never really believe that relationship. You're just supposed to think they're tight. You wind up caring for Rey by the very end when she accepts her destiny/teaches herself a jedi mind trick out of nowhere. She just sort of starts knowing how to use the force really fucking well out of nowhere. There are hints to her past but nothing concrete. She was left on Jakku and told to wait for her family (or people that important) to come back for her. By the middle of the movie she realizes through Maz (who is super awkwardly portrayed, I get why JJ had to re-do a bunch of this stuff now) that no one is coming back for her. Luke's lightsaber calls out to Rey at Maz's place from her basement. But Luke Skywalker never says a single word and he was the entire mcguffin for the movie? And Han Solo, the greatest character in cinematic history meets his end after telling Leia he knows his son (Kylo Ren) is all bad. And then randomly decides on a very dark bridge... fuck it, I'll ask him to come home with me? Kylo Ren, meanwhile is supposedly conflicted about being bad, but he's pretty seriously down with kicking back and watching the destruction of a Republic solar system.
He also is super down fucking up people left and right, but because he SAYS outloud "I'm so conflicted!" we're supposed to buy in. But I didn't, I wanted to but I couldn't. The First Order and the Resistance spend the whole movie fucking people up from left to right trying to find out where Luke is. Rey finds Luke and that's the movie, head home folks. I get that they're setting up the next movies, but holy shit... that would be like Indy finding the lost ark at the end of the first movie and he smiles at it, rather than doing anything with it that furthers his character. And as soon as the Resistance knows where Luke is... they send Rey? A stranger? Alone with Chewy and BB8? The same Rey who Leia references to Finn as "that girl?" The same Leia who hasn't seen her brother in years, and just spent blood and treasure to find him and the second she does she waves at the Millennium Falcon at the end and hangs back?? Just weak all around, Force Awakens was a HUGE letdown for me.
Here are random spoilers for STAR WARS Episode VII which I saw today. Just because I want to ruin your fun:
The first line of the opening crawl is "Luke Skywalker has disappeared."
The first sentence in the movie is "This will begin to make things right", said by Max von Sydow. Poe Dameron came to him to get the map to Luke Skywalker for The Resistance.
Max von Sydow's role is just a cameo, he has about 10 sentences before Kylo Ren kills him.
The Empire is now The First Order, The Rebels are now The Resistance, more extreme fraction of the New Republic, who are supposedly pussies. We only see the New Republic planet for a few seconds before it's destroyed by the Starkiller base.
Almost no one in the movie believes that Jedis and Luke Skywalker ever existed.
Kylo Ren captures Poe and uses the Force to stop laser blast so that it remains floating in the air, frozen in place.
Finn helps captured Poe to escape from the Star Destroyer only because he cannot pilot TIE fighter himself. Poe is an expert pilot, Finn can shoot lasers. They become friends.
Finn's "real name" is FN and four numbers. Poe starts to call him "Finn" because it's easier to pronounce. FN likes it.
After 20 minutes, we are supposed to think that Poe Dameron was killed in the TIE crash on Jakku. He reappers near the end (he ejected before the crash) to lead the attack on Starkiller base. He is not in the film very much. Finn wears Poe's jacket during most of the movie.
Rey meets Finn, they steal the Millennium Falcon from the junkyard and fly away. Han and Chewie catch them soon, followed by two groups of racially-stereotyped space gangsters.
Chewbacca is wounded by space gangsters soon after he appears and spends most of the remaining time doing nothing. Rey takes his place as Falcon's pilot, proving herself to Han.
Kylo Ren is Han and Leia's son. He is "Master of The Knights of Ren" but it's not explained what it means.
Kylo Ren's real name is Ben. He was trained by Luke but then turned to the Dark Side which was the reason for Luke blaming himself and disappearing.
The Starkiller base charges by draining suns and then destroys whole solar systems. The shot in trailer with Kylo Ren and red flare is the Starkiller base firing. Guess what, the Starkiller base can be destroyed by flying in her trench and shooting the "oscillator" or whatever.
Han meets Kylo at the Starkiller base/planet and tries to persuade him to return with him. "I am torn apart, father. But I know what I must do. Can you help me?" - "Of course, my son." They almost embrace. Kylo pierces Han with lightsaber. "Thank you, father." Dead Han falls into the shaft on the Starkiller base. Yes, he is dead. Most definitely.
Leader Snoke is the bald CGI bad guy with large scar across his face. He has snake-like movements but his body is never clearly seen. His motivation or origin is never explained. He gives orders to Kylo Ren and General Hux (who hate each other). Most of the characters don't know about Snoke's existence.
General Hux has screaming monologue in front of thousands of Stormtroopers: "We stand upon this mighty weapon you've built. Everyone will bow to The First Order. Today will be remembered as the last day of The Republic!" Afterwards, all Stormtroopers raise their fists. Very nice Der Fuhrer moment.
Fan service: Holochess. The levitating training ball from Episode 4. Admiral Ackbar. Rey living in the AT-AT wreckage. "1138" mentioned. Garbage chute and trash compactor mentioned. Kesel Run mentioned.
Simon Pegg plays an alien called Ankar Plutt who took care of Rey when she was very little and her parents disappeared. Now he runs a junkyard on Jakku and buys scrap from Rey. His face and voice is not recognizable.
Apart from Han and Chewie, all the "original characters" (Leia, R2D2, C3PO) only appear after two thirds of the movie, when The Resistance lands on Maz Kanata's planet.
Maz Kanata (small CGI gypsy) is the new Yoda and explains everything cryptically. Nobody understands her.
Han and Leia see each other for the first time after many, many years and have a touching conversation about their son: "You can still save him." / "How can I save him when Luke couldn't?" / "Luke was a Jedi, your are his father."
Kylo Ren and Rey have duel of wills. Rey wins, telling Kylo: "I sense your fear. You are afraid that you will never be as strong as Darth Vader."
Kylo Ren talks to Vader's helmet: "Show me the darkness. I will finish what you started, grandfather."
R2D2 spends the whole movie powered down and doesn't do anything until 5 minutes at the very end when it's discovered that crucial part of the Skywalker map is in his memory, probably but there by Luke long time ago. (It's not very clear but Luke appears with R2D2 in a flashback.)
Rey has a weird dream/flashback after she finds Luke's lightsaber in Maz Kanata's castle and touches it. The dream contains lots of quick imagery and short voiceovers by Yoda and Obi-Wan. Several famous shots in trailers (Kylo and his posse, Luke's mechanical arm on R2D2) are from this dream montage and are never explained in the movie.
Finn's origin (his skin color, who are his parents, why he hates the First Order) is never explained.
C3PO's red hand is never explained. In fact, there are many things that are never explained in this movie...
Both Finn and Rey have lightsaber duel with Kylo in the forest on the Starkiller planet/base. Finn is badly wounded and spends rest of the movie in a coma. Rey finally falls in love with him. (He loved her from the first sight.)
Starkiller base/planet is succesfully destroyed by The Resistance. We don't know what happens with Kylo Ren (who was there) but he probably survived. Snoke sends the message to Hux to "Bring Kylo Ren to me complete his training."
The last sentence of the movie is "May the Force be with you", said by Leia to Rey.
After the last sentence, there is an extended sequence without dialogue: Rey leaves the Resistance base in the Millennium Falcon with Chewbacca. They find remote planet where Luke is hiding (because they now have the map), Rey goes to the "first Jedi Temple" (which looks like ruins of some Scottish castle on a rocky island). Luke is there, dressed in old Obi-Wan style hood. Rey returns his sword to him. Apart from this sequence, Luke only appears for three seconds in Rey's previous flashback. Luke speaks no words in the whole movie and is onscreen maybe for 30 seconds total. He never meets anyone else than Rey.
druha recenze:
Once the excitement dies down, you start to peel back the layers and realize there aren't any. It's time to kill the death star again again. The movie spends so much time referencing the past, walking you through the Musem of Star Wars that you wind up lost in the musem... with little reason to root for the new leads.
Rey spends the first 3/4ths of the movie meandering. Finn runs away from the stormtroopers because he is afraid, but he'll literally run towards a firing squadron for Rey... but there's no why. Maybe because she helped him, maybe because he thinks shes hot. You never really believe that relationship. You're just supposed to think they're tight. You wind up caring for Rey by the very end when she accepts her destiny/teaches herself a jedi mind trick out of nowhere. She just sort of starts knowing how to use the force really fucking well out of nowhere. There are hints to her past but nothing concrete. She was left on Jakku and told to wait for her family (or people that important) to come back for her. By the middle of the movie she realizes through Maz (who is super awkwardly portrayed, I get why JJ had to re-do a bunch of this stuff now) that no one is coming back for her. Luke's lightsaber calls out to Rey at Maz's place from her basement. But Luke Skywalker never says a single word and he was the entire mcguffin for the movie? And Han Solo, the greatest character in cinematic history meets his end after telling Leia he knows his son (Kylo Ren) is all bad. And then randomly decides on a very dark bridge... fuck it, I'll ask him to come home with me? Kylo Ren, meanwhile is supposedly conflicted about being bad, but he's pretty seriously down with kicking back and watching the destruction of a Republic solar system.
He also is super down fucking up people left and right, but because he SAYS outloud "I'm so conflicted!" we're supposed to buy in. But I didn't, I wanted to but I couldn't. The First Order and the Resistance spend the whole movie fucking people up from left to right trying to find out where Luke is. Rey finds Luke and that's the movie, head home folks. I get that they're setting up the next movies, but holy shit... that would be like Indy finding the lost ark at the end of the first movie and he smiles at it, rather than doing anything with it that furthers his character. And as soon as the Resistance knows where Luke is... they send Rey? A stranger? Alone with Chewy and BB8? The same Rey who Leia references to Finn as "that girl?" The same Leia who hasn't seen her brother in years, and just spent blood and treasure to find him and the second she does she waves at the Millennium Falcon at the end and hangs back?? Just weak all around, Force Awakens was a HUGE letdown for me.
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Měl jsem koupeno na půlnočku, ale musel jsem do nemocnice kvůli operaci.
Team pozdě ale přece
Team pozdě ale přece
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Team pulnocka 
S tim taky prichazi moc nad ostatnimi lidmi v praci, kteri jsou do kina pozdeji.
S tim taky prichazi moc nad ostatnimi lidmi v praci, kteri jsou do kina pozdeji.
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meh mě teda rozsekal ten komentář Oswalta ohledně posledního záběru .... 
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Jsem rád, že jsem nakonec vzal ty lístky na půlnočku. Hype je mocnej. :)
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Warneři kývnuli na závaznou nabídku Netflixu! Co se bude se slavným studiem dít dál?Ash_BlackNo, pořád jsem měl naději, že je Disk předběhne. Každopádně, kdybych musel nutně říct jednu jedinou VOD, řekl bych HBO. Co se týče Warnerů, mám ty riskující ostrostřelce rád - není tam nikdo další, kdo případný neúspěch vyvažuje nabídkou kreativních a úspěšných projektů. Oproti tomu Netflix - ten jsem třeba 6-7 let dozadu vnímal jako něco, kde by „chtěl dělat každý“ a časem se mi to nějak rozmělnilo. Neustále sice něco chrlí, pak je tu těch x dalších nových nejsledovanějších věcí, které už si po neděli nikdo nepamatuje a nahradí se dalšími ... a vnímání, že je to někdy samostatný žánr, co má i jednotnou barevnou paletu atd. Takhle, pořád si na té službě něco najdu, ale tahle zpráva mě zatím naklápí na tu ne úplně veselou stranu. Než abych si pomyslel, že by to teoreticky mohlo znamenat, že se pokusí třeba víc svých Netflix origin kousků valit do kinodistribuce, odpovídám si spíš opačně. A to samé třeba fyzické nosiče - u nás už to pravidlo 100% neplatí, ale obecně ve světovém měřítku jsou pořád Warneři jistotou, že jejich tituly takhle vycházely a s tím by případně mohl být rovněž konec.- Warneři kývnuli na závaznou nabídku Netflixu! Co se bude se slavným studiem dít dál?TyllerMožno to majú podobne ako ostatné VOD "ošetrené" skrz regióny, ale príde mi že tá knižnica je hrozne osekaná. Zrovna dnes som to zo zvedavosti prechádzal a jediné čo ma tam zaujalo bol Master Commander.
Rovnako nechápem že WB vyradili Looney Toons.
To je ako by Disney vyradil Levieho Kráľa.
(Keď nad tým spätne uvažujem neprekvapilo by ma keby to bola súčasť riadenej demolácie aby bol odpredaj ľahší )
Ale tak uznávam že filmy čo tam majú sú oproti Disneymu alebo Netflixu čo sa kvality týka proste inde. - Warneři kývnuli na závaznou nabídku Netflixu! Co se bude se slavným studiem dít dál?Bobby6killerJako úplně se generalizovat nedá, ale podle mě se zrovna HBO a třeba taková AppleTV+ snaží profilovat jako ta “quality TV”, což je koncept kterej HBO vlastně tenkrát udělal v kontrastu s tehdejšíma televizníma serialama. Netflix narozdíl od nich jede catch them all strategii a produkuje všechno, jak tu quality tv tak i srackovy beckovy seriály, debilní romanticky výplachy, desítky reality shows atd. atd. Takže je otázka jak k tomu HBO brandu Netflix přistoupí, ale očekávám, ze ho porad budou chtít prezentovat jako nějakou záruku extra kvality v rámci jejich portfolia.
- Funguje to?: TrailerPoluxOk, takže Cooper vrací úder s takovou méně depresivně/více humorně laděnou sociologickou sondou do rozpadajícího se manželství ve stylu Marriage Story (a zase je u toho Dern) s bonusem navíc v podobě stand-up vsuvek. Ambiciózní Maestro moc nepřesvědčil, ale zdaleka nejlepší scénou ve filmu byla manželská hádka, tak snad se to pozitivně projeví na výsledku. Fajn civilní trailer příjemně překvapil (na čemž má velkou zásluhu i vhodně zvolený hudební podkres) a první reakce jsou povzbudivé, takže nakročeno k sympatické nenáročné feel-good žánrovce na náročné téma tady je.
